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Discussion: Two users for 1 Seller and Fake cards on Auctions luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 48 9:35 pm on Oct. 14, 2004 I've just seen that there is a seller that have 2 different users... both on AllCards... Is it possible? The same user have also published some fake cards, not telling that they are fake! Is this possible,too??? I don't think so... ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   juancito Advanced Member Posts: 44 1:04 am on Oct. 15, 2004 Hi Andrea, Please put the username of the sellers to warning. Many thanks Juancito   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 49 10:23 am on Oct. 15, 2004 The problem is that with this user I've always had good transactions about two years ago... and he is a very polite person... Probably if he has publish that auctions he didn't know that that cards were fake... Anyway if you see on auctions remote memory from Unicom (UK) with naked top models or cards with animals from Pacific net (Australia) be careful because they are fake cards! ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   Allcards admin Posts: 163 3:25 pm on Oct. 15, 2004 Andrea, please write me privately who is this user. ---------- Andrea Lughi Phonecards Auctions Administration   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 50 8:46 pm on Oct. 15, 2004 Hi Andrea, I've just send you an email at auctions@...net In which I've put a link to the fake cards auctions actually published and the name of the user. edited to say that your email address was full and the email comes back! For this reason I've sent the email at forum@....net Edited by: luckyswap Edited by: luckyswap   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 51 8:24 pm on Oct. 16, 2004 Ok Before today I was not sure at 100% but now I can tell the names of the two users that are both from Croatia and both with the same address and both that sell fake cards on auctions. Both M5 and Zvonac sell on Allcards and on Scummy phonecards from Pacific.net (AUSTRALIA) and from Unitel (UK) pubblished as fake cards on MVCARDS. the address is both the same: 31001 OSIJEK, CROATIA and even if is not possible to have 2 different users for one seller He has them! Of course everything is possible... and thay can be two different persons... but I think that my accusation is well motivated because for me is difficult to believe that they are 2 different persons if they have the same address and sell the same cards!... correction...the same fake cards! I'm sorry that things like this happens with sellers so nice & polite as M5, with whom I've also had a deal 2 years ago... but anyway what he does is not correct. If anyone have more explanations... I'll be happy to see that what I'm telling is wrong... Anyway... at least they could be two users (but I don't think so!)...but it remain the fact that they sell fake cards! for more info see : Znovac Auctions on allcards: http://www.all-cards.net/auctions/auction.cgi?disp&viewseller&Zvonac Znovac Auctions on Scummy: http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl/?action=search&searchstring=Zvonac&searchtype=username Now the fake cards auctions with this user are endings... and have been published only on Allcards. while with the other user...M5 the fake cards are not only published in the section other cards but also in the sections thematic phonecards or world phonecards... auctions on AllCards: http://www.all-cards.net/auctions/auction.cgi?disp&viewseller&M5 last week there were on auctions the cards with Demi Moore published on MVCARDS as fakecards... and the cards from Pacific net...that are already on auctions... here an exeple: http://www.all-cards.net/auctions/auction.cgi?1&1098901174 Lady Diana on a fake card from Pacific here the auctions from M5 on scummy: http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl/?action=search&searchstring=M5&searchtype=username and here the fake cards auctions published as thematic phonecards: http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098369533 dolphins set http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098369536 fishes set http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098379216 Lady Diana (on scummy too... very popular this fake card!) and finally all the last week not sold auctions on Allcards re-published on Scummy... all the cards from the fake set Naked womans published by Unicom: http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098727207 http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098727211 http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098727221 http://auction.scummy.net/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=thematic&item=1098727213 to be honest I think that the cards from Titanic, Lady Diana and the other naked woman phonecards are all fake... that's all... ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   daniele Newbie Posts: 4 9:30 pm on Oct. 16, 2004 DEAR ANDREA, THIS IS A OLD AND DIFFICULT WAR................. I CAN CONFIRM ABOUT THE 2 COMPANIES THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS CARDS ARE FAKES,NOTHING I KNOW ABOUT THE 2 SAME USERS,WITH Mr. ZVONAC,ABOUT PACIFICNET COMPANY,IT'S A OLD DISCUSSION,BUT........THIS CARDS ARE FAKES!!!!!!! THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION, BEST REGARDS DANIELE PITARRESI MVCARDS WWW.MVCARDS.COM ---------- Daniele Pitarresi   Jorncolding Advanced Member Posts: 56 2:11 pm on Oct. 17, 2004 Hi. I know M5 for many years and never got any problems with him. I think, he did not know, that the cards is fake. Bye Jorn   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 52 2:54 pm on Oct. 17, 2004 Yes what you say Jorn is right in fact I've said this in the previous post: I'm sorry that things like this happens with sellers so nice & polite as M5, with whom I've also had a deal 2 years ago... but if you sell something you have to know what are you selling... Except for beginners collectors anyother collectors is able to see if a remote memory card is a fake or not... and I think that M5 is not a beginner collector... And if he wes a beginner collector, not able to make a distintion between a fake or an original, He should not sell phonecards... ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   Jorncolding Advanced Member Posts: 57 7:16 pm on Oct. 17, 2004 It is right Andrea. Bye Jorn   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 54 12:27 pm on Oct. 18, 2004 Imporant: M5 and Znovak are not the same person. This has been a my error... but... This two persons are from the same town and have the same address... I've noticed that the cards published till yesterday on Allcards by M5 have been published on Scummy by Znovak...with the same pictures. ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   Allcards admin Posts: 164 1:43 pm on Oct. 18, 2004 Hello, as far as I know him, I consider M5 a honest seller and I can assume that he didn't know that these cards were fake. Anyway, these auctions have been removed now. We already speak about the problem long ago, however I would remember to all the sellers and bidders some simple suggestionss. TO THE SELLERS: Please be sure of what you are selling. Acting professionally would increment your reputation and people would buy from you more and more. If you know that some cards you would offer are fake, or if you are not sure about them, just post them in "Other cards" section and write a short description. Always offer your potential buyers all the possible information. The type of card (remote memory, chip, optical, magnetic, etc.) and the country of origin should always be in your description. You can find a full description of all systems used here. TO THE BIDDERS: Always be sure of what you are bidding on and who you are bidding from. Be confident with sellers listed as "Qualified Seller" , as these are professional sellers whose seriety is guaranteed. For the other sellers, always verify their feedback profile and their "JustMe" page. If you are uncertain about the genuinity of some cards offered in auction, just ask in this forum for the help of other users. Verify on other sites if you find prices and information about some cards you would bid on. Bidding in auctions are often good occasions, but this is not always valid and it is not so rare to win a card at a price higher than a retail price. Hope that this helps! ---------- Andrea Lughi Phonecards Auctions Administration   End of posts   Admin / Moderator Options

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