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Discussion: Luckyswap wycombe1 Regular Member Posts: 29 12:45 pm on Oct. 24, 2004 Akoy interesalong makita ko ang pamamintas na mensahe sa ibang gumagamit ng siteo na alam ko na ang mga panira na ito ay hindi maintindihan at isa na ako. Mayroon bang inilihim ang 'Luckyswap' na gamiten ang wika na hindi maintindihan. Kahit ako hindi ko siniraan ang 'Luckyswap' sa mensaheng ito pero ako nagbibigay ng lasa ng sariling gamat para mailathala ang mensaheng ito na sa wikang hindi maintindihan. Kung ang 'Luckyswap' ay nagpahalaga na malathala ang mensahe niya sa English, para ang kumalaban malaman ang kanyang sinasabi ganoon din ako maglathhala ng mensahe na maintindihan ko. Kawawa naman ang 'Luckyswap' na hindi maglathala ng mensahe na maunawaan ang wika para ang kinalaban ay magkaroon ng pagkakatoon na magdepensa sa kanyang sarile. Ako din ay may naka usap sa 'Luckyswap' noong araw abam ko na naayos ang kangang English, at akoy nabigo na maunawaan bakit hindi niya ako kinausap ng diretsa kung may problema siya sa aming paguusap - ang pinakahuli ay November 2003.   daniele Newbie Posts: 10 1:15 pm on Oct. 24, 2004 Dear............ Charles, AGAIN WRONG.................. In the index of this forum,you can ready that is this section: Worldwide (no-English speaking Forum) Now......you don't are able to speack in english for ask what you need to Andrea? We used this section in past days,only because for us(particulary for me)it's more easy to write in my language,my english,as you know very well it's not so good. Your language probably is not the english,i don't know but.........i am courious to know if it's so. If you want,we can continue the discussion in Polish,Czech,Russian,lithuanian languages,some of this for me are more easy of the english language............. Now you understood why we spock in italian language??? By the way,if you ready the recently Andrea posted,him translated for Polyglot about what we spock. Regards Dear......Charles, Daniele Pitarresi MVcards www.mvcards.com ---------- Daniele Pitarresi   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 62 12:07 am on Oct. 25, 2004 Hi Charles here there is the tranlastion of my post... If you ask me a translation, as Polyglot has made, I give it... it's simple... you have only to ask! I'll reply here... there is no reason to open another identic topic... ^.^ I don't translate the first part of the post about Aiden because is the Italian version of the post that I've already publish in English... If you want more info about this part of the post you can have them here: http://www.all-cards.net/forum/discussion.cgi?forum=12&discussion=151 Then I've said to the other Italian users... now that we are speaking about bad experiences with users I'll add a list with all my bad experiences... Wycombie: I've bought some cards from him on eBay. Once I've sent him the total by registered mail... but He had told me that he had no received my letter... so I've told him that I should have sent him another letter with the total again and that meanwhile I should have asked to the post info about his letter...but he told me after one week to have already put on auctions some cards and to have already sold some of the cards. Now I make a summary of the other bad experiences because I think that you were interested only in a translation of the part in which I've spoken about you Dadanc: from New Caledonia. I've sent him 12€...and never received his cards because he has sold them to another buyer. He have also not payed to Andrea (AllCards) for the Auctions fees. Dariusz: from Poland. He bought auctions from me and then has never payed his auctions.He have also not payed to Andrea (AllCards) for the Auctions fees. Karlos: Abdullah Ali from Qatar. I've payed him 50 cards from Qatar never received. This user has been removed from all the auctions sites. Paola Sabrina Castagnin: from Uruguay. A girl with whom I've swapped some cards... after 4 years I'm still waiting for her cards... never received... and with me many other collectors are still waiting cards from her. Ferrit3d: from UK. I've bought on auctions a chip card from USA sold as "mint in blister" but received used and in bad conditions on the back of the card. Zorro99: from South Korea. He bought 6 auctions from me... never payed... other users too have had problems with him like Scummy and Polyglot (see the relative topics) I've also said that I always have great deals with these other users: Baycards, Micheal93, DDCards, MVCards, Jason, Juancito, Clipoo, Niagara and now in this translation I also add Polyglot, Viccards and Jorn Colding (I've forgotten them in the Italian post - sorry!)... (sorry if I've forgotten some others good sellers from whom I've bought cards) Than I have also said that I've decided to don't buy or swap cards with some countries: Arabian countries,Russia, some East European countries, Africa (but not South Africa) and some South American countries because I've had many bad experiences with these countries... I've said that the postal services are very slow in Croatia and Argentina and very expensive in Holland. this is what I've had said in my topic in Italian. But note that if I write in the Italian Forum... I DON'T HAVE TO TRANSLATE THE POST IN OTHER LANGUAGES! There is no rule on this forum where is written that I have to speak in English in the Italian forum too! Sorry for all my errors in English but in Italy now it's 00:05 and I'm very tired ... so I don't have the forces to read again the post and make the corrections.. I'm also happy to see that even if you live in UK you write in other languages (Philippinos??? ) ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   daniele Junior Member Posts: 11 3:30 am on Oct. 25, 2004 Dear Andrea, strongly agree............... Ciao Daniele ---------- Daniele Pitarresi   wycombe1 Regular Member Posts: 30 11:38 am on Oct. 26, 2004 My message which is in Tagalog was posted in the correct section of the Forum. I have no problem with anyone posting messages in any language!! My point being that when a posting refers directly to another member - it should be in a language that member is able to understand. I do not understand Italian (yet I am referred to in the original message). I am sure that dadanc, dariusz, karlos, ferrit3d or zorro99 are not Italian speakers either! As an English translation has now appeared I am happy to provide an English translation of my message - this follows: I was interested to see a message criticising other users of this site in a language I am sure most of those criticised could not understand - myself being one of them. Does 'luckyswap' have something to hide so he has to use a language few understand? I myself make no attack on 'luckyswap in this message - but I am giving him a taste of his own medicine by posting this message in a language I am sure he does not understand. If 'luckyswap' cares to print his message in English so those he is attacking know what he is saying I will do the same and print an English translation of this message. It is shame that 'luckyswap' cannot print his messages in a language that those he directly attacks can understand so they are able to have an opportunity to defend themselves. As I have had dealings with 'luckswap' in the past I know his English is good - and I fail to understand why he has not contacted me directly himself if he has a problem with any of our transactions - the last being in November 2003. Please remember this translation is appearing AFTER the English translation of the original Italian version! I have no problem with being criticised by anyone or with anyone expressing their opinions in this Forum or elsewhere. Neither do I have anything to hide. Those who deal with me on a regular basis know how patient I am regarding payments, the quality of the material I offer and how readily I rectify any mistakes I may make (and I do admit I do make mistakes sometimes). You can read my feedback on Ebay - over 14,000 positive feedback comments from about 1600 different buyers. Also read the negatives (if you can find them) which total 6! Most of these are to do with the Postal Systems which are TOTALLY outside my control. Just as the criticism from 'luckyswap' with his missing payment. I never did discover if he ever received his compensation from the Italian Post Office!!   luckyswap Advanced Member Posts: 64 7:49 pm on Oct. 26, 2004 Charles you say thay your post was posted in the correct section of the Forum... yes of course... as my message was post in the correct section! I'm Italian and I WANT to publish my messages in the Italian section. As soon you've requested a translation I've given it to you... so I don't know where is the problem. If i'm speaking in Italian because I'm continuing a topic already started in Italian there is no reason to tranlate it in English because if I have to translate each post published in the Italian Forum, this area becomes not useful... because it is only a repetition in Italian of the English version. I've never said in my post that the quality of your cards was not good! I've bought many times cards from you and I've never received bad cards ... so I can't have said that things! You can see my translation and also using an on-line tranlastor you will see that in the Italian version too I've never sad that your cards were of low quality. The problem was another ... I've never said that the cards were not good or that you have received a payment and have told me to have not received it! I never said these things! What I've said is that even if I've bought many times from you before that "November 2003" you have no given me the opportunity to send you cash again because you've already sold the cards from Fiji (remote - set with flags) Trinidad & Tobago (university logo + a runner) Albania (deer and crab) and only Falkalnd (a small bird) was still available, but to buy again on Auction! Of course you have to consider that the Italian Post takes about 7-9 days to send a registered letter to UK... if in these 7-9 days you had already sold again my cards it's not correct. Of course I can't send again the letter before that period because if I know that the letter will not arrive in less than 7 days is normal that I'll not send before that period another letter! After waiting that period in which , meanwhile, I've asked for more info to the Post to know where was finished the letter... I've told you that another letter was ready to be sent again... and on that moment you've told me that the cards were already sold. I want also to stress that this is the only thing that I've not liked. No other... And this is also the reason for which with you I've not used the more strong accusation that I've made to the other... and note that for me it's not important if: dadanc, dariusz, karlos, ferrit3d or zorro99 will not understand Italian because they have been very uncorrect with me ... so now for me they are closed chapters... and the dimostration is that most of the persons in my list have been removed from Allcards and some of them also from Scummy. You say that you have many feedbacks... but as I've written in my Italian topic the introductory statement was: "these person in my black list can have even 1000 or more positive feedbacks but for me it's not important because they have not been correct with me!" For me is not important if Zorro have 600 +feedbacks because he have not paied for his auctions... Ferrit3d have hundreds of positive feedbacks but he has sent me the US card that was in used and in bad conditions and not mint in blister as was published on auctions! For the other there are only negative feedbacks... I repeat(and for the last time because for me this topic ends today, I don't have time to loose repeting always the same things) The ONLY thing that I've not liked from you has been that you have reselled my cards not waiting for my second payment ... even if you knew that I'm an honest buyer and that I've always paied you... and that you've never waited for my payment. Please not that as you ... I have hundreds of positive feedbacks... the only negative feedbacks are both on Allcards and on Scummy the feedbacks of Dadanc. And do you remember what I've told you about this person? (if not is written in the previous post) ---------- Ciao Andrea www.acards.135.it   daniele Junior Member Posts: 13 9:47 pm on Oct. 26, 2004 DEAR CHARLES, AGAIN AND AGAIN WRONG. PROC PREDEM NESTUDUJES PRAVIDLA UZIVANI PRED TIM, NEZ NECO PISES? PROC POKRACUJES V PSANI VECI, KTERE SE TI V ZAPETI VRATI? STACI RICT ANDREE, ABY UDELAL PREKLAD A ON TO JISTE UDELA,NEBO PREFERUJES POUZIVAT PRIMITIVNI SYSTEMY! JSEM STASTNY, ZE NEMAS PROBLEMY S ZADNYM JAZYKEM..........DELA MI DOBRE VEDET, ZE V TOMTO FORUM SPOLUPRACUJI S LIDMI TVE INTELIGENCE. S PRATELSKYM POZDRAVEM DANIELE PITARRESI MVCARDS WWW.MVCARDS.COM ---------- Daniele Pitarresi   daniele Junior Member Posts: 14 9:47 pm on Oct. 26, 2004 DEAR CHARLES, AGAIN AND AGAIN WRONG. PROC PREDEM NESTUDUJES PRAVIDLA UZIVANI PRED TIM, NEZ NECO PISES? PROC POKRACUJES V PSANI VECI, KTERE SE TI V ZAPETI VRATI? STACI RICT ANDREE, ABY UDELAL PREKLAD A ON TO JISTE UDELA,NEBO PREFERUJES POUZIVAT PRIMITIVNI SYSTEMY! JSEM STASTNY, ZE NEMAS PROBLEMY S ZADNYM JAZYKEM..........DELA MI DOBRE VEDET, ZE V TOMTO FORUM SPOLUPRACUJI S LIDMI TVE INTELIGENCE. S PRATELSKYM POZDRAVEM DANIELE PITARRESI MVCARDS WWW.MVCARDS.COM ---------- Daniele Pitarresi   wycombe1 Full Member Posts: 31 9:53 pm on Oct. 26, 2004 Hi Andrea, I have no argument with anything that you have said - you are perfectly entitled to your opinion whatever that opinion may be - whether I agree with that opinion or not. My only argument is with posting a message about a person in a language that person cannot understand - whether it is a glowing testimonial, a damming criticism or a neutral comment. When you posted your message in Italian I had no idea what it said (the same as my Tagalog message), I had no idea you would be willing to post a message translation in English (which you did and I reciprocated). All your further comments are noted and appreciated especially regarding the time you have taken to enumerate them and explain. As far as I am concerned the matter is closed.   daniele Junior Member Posts: 15 3:17 am on Oct. 27, 2004 Dear dear dear Charles, maybe this is why this section of the forum exist..................do you thinked about this matter????????????? In my opinion it's better to close this discussion,and I hope that you understood,but if you will want,we will can continue in many languages for give.....a demonstration......like the your post in Taleban language......about who know more languages,a VERY intelligent play Charles,MY PERSONAL COMPLIMENTS....... regards Daniele MVcards ---------- Daniele Pitarresi   End of posts   Admin / Moderator Options

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