ABOUT GRILINHO IN BRAZIL and more!GRILINHO IN BRAZIL:
EITHER SEND ME THE PHONECARDS OR SEND BACK MY MONEY!!!
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIND ADEMIR GRILINHO DURIGAN,
A PHONECARD DEALER IN SAO PAULO, BRAZIL?
HE WROTE TO ME VIA E-MAIL OFFERING TO SELL PHONECARDS
FOR U.S. CASH CURRENCY. I RESPONDED IN AGREEMENT AND
I SENT HIM $20 U.S. DOLLARS ON 19 SEPTEMBER 2002.
HE ANSWERED VIA E-MAIL THAT HE HAD RECEIVED THE MONEY
AND WOULD SEND THE CARDS TO ME THE NEXT WEEK. I AM
STILL WAITING FOR THOSE SAME CARDS, 11 MONTHS LATER.
I HAVE SENT HIM SEVERAL E-MAILS ABOUT THIS, BUT I DO
NOT GET A RESPONSE FROM HIM.
IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THIS PERSON, CAN
YOU PLEASE SEND ME E-MAIL WITH YOUR INFORMATION?
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Membername: Grilinho
Real name: Alan Araújo
Gender: male
Age: 21
Location: São Paulo, São Paulo, Brazil
I do have 2 different e-mail addresses that he has used in the past and which I will be happy to provide anyone with.
Ademir Durigan <dealerbrazil
> > > >
> > > >AND ALSO:
> > > >
Grilinho <picao66
This is the SAME person, who changes his e-mail address
from time to time, and who also uses fake names.
BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HIM AND USE CAUTION WHEN SENDING
HIM CASH CURRENCY.
It is the SAME Grilinho in Sao Paulo as the one that you MAY OR MAY NOT have in your membership list.
YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE IF GRILINHO DID NOT CHEAT
YOU. I SUPPOSE THAT HE DOES NOT CHEAT EVERY, EVERY, EVERY PERSON
THAT HE DEALS WITH.
BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, HE IS CAPABLE OF CHEATING and
HE HAS CHEATED ME!
HE ASKED ME TO SEND CASH AND I DID.
HE E-MAILED THAT HE WOULD SEND BACK PHONECARDS AND HE
DID NOT!
THAT IS WHAT I CALL "CHEATING".
This person is not honest and I hope that he does not get away with cheating other people like he did with me.
So, be FOREWARNED AND FOREARMED! SINCE HE DID NOT SEND ME THE PHONECARDS, I WANT HIM TO SEND MY MONEY BACK TO ME (NEARLY ONE YEAR LATER).
I DO WANT to warn other decent people that Grilinho is "out there".
Please check: www.google.comType
in "grilinho" and hit search.
You will be surprised. This person seems to be EVERYWHERE.
Maybe you DO or DO NOT remember Stacy Derka, and what she did approximately 2 or 2+ years ago.
She had many fake names and quite a few different e-mail addresses. Then, she joined as many Yahoo Clubs (Postcard, Dolls, and lots of other things) as she could find, using all these different names for herself and with different e-mail addresses, changing all the time.
She "took" many different people for a lot of money, generally less than $100 each, promising to send them "whatever" if they sent the cash to her. She got me for $20. The FBI got on her trail and she actually did return SOME of the money to SOME of the suckers, promising to send the REST of the "buyers" their money back. Most of those last people never got anything back, once the Feds were satisfied that she was "going straight".
I was one of those people who never got any money back.
There are actual Yahoo Groups that you can join to report these scammers and that deal with these deviant personalities. I am in 2 of them:
BadBeans
BdTraders
Apparently, people like Stacy Derka and Grilinho, and others of the same nature can only be stopped by wide publicity about their cheating antics. The trick is to alert everyone you know that this is not just a one-time event or a one-time misunderstanding. This is a huge scam network engineered by a one single person.
So you may or may not find Grilinho in your membership list, using that particular name. But he IS out there, and he/she is in Brazil. That is where I sent my money -- Sao Paulo, but he/she could have changed cities. I think that most likely he remains in Brazil because changing Countries is a much more difficult process.
Usually, I am against "black-lists", but in this one
case, I am really angry since I e-mailed this person
several times which he ignored.
Now that I am posting my message everywhere that I can
think of, he also is posting a message that says I do
not speak the truth.
Actually, I have traded with hundreds of people all
over the world, and as far as I know, all of them have
been satisfied.
"Bad Trader Links":
ttp://ca.geocities.com/deb_f_34/blacklists.html
http://www.pcbandit.net/traders/badtrader.html/
http://geocities.com/drahegewisch/BLACK_LIST.html?995531614490/
http://www.walk.to/postcards/
THANKING YOU, SISTER SOPHIE
MIAMI, FLORIDA, USA
Furthermore, here is a list of names that I copied from an e-mail sent to me by a friend in 2001:
> """Don't send any mail to following people:
> They are PHONY, CHEATERS & SWINDLERS!
> They just receive stamps, phonecards, postcards,
> banknotes or others and never ever send anything
> back!!
> Please do not swap with them and prohibit them from
> advertising!!""" (My trusted friend's words, not
> mine.)
> - Manfred HUBER, Vocklabruck, AUSTRIA
>
> - Hartmut ŌSTERREICH, Berlin, GERMANY
>
> - Lee LOUDA, Praha, CZECH REP. (former
> Czechosėovakia)
>
> - Christy Welsh, MI (USA)
>
> - Kveta KADLCAKOVA, Ostrava, CZECH REP.
>
> - EIin HANSEN, Ringe-Krarup, DENMARK
>
> - Rachel Goods, WA (USA)
>
> - Harald JAHNIG, Kienbaum, GERMANY
>
> - RoIf STEMMLER, Zollikon, SWITZERLAND
>
> * T. N. K. RAMANUJAM, Madurai , INDIA) same
> * T. R. BABUJI - Philatelist, Madurai, INDIA)
> person
>
> * Leon GRYSELEYN, Itzig, LUXEMBOURG) the
> * F. L. M. P., Boite Postale 1157,
> L-1011_Luxembourg, LUXEMBOURG same
> * Elfi LYDORF Perl saar, GERMANY- -- ~)-person
>
> - Hans GEERAERD, Oostende, BELGIUM
>
> - Kamal KHALED, Irbid, JORDAN
>
> - Jose G. Garda MORA, San Jose, COSTA RICA
>
> - Carlos A. ZITELLI, Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA
>
> - M. HAFEEZ, Lahore PAKISTAN
>
> - John M. CIANO, MA, USA
>
> -Christine Paulichuk / Christine mac Math (from
> Canada)
>
>
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Sister Sophie
Miami, Florida USA
Now I never see him face to face.He's in Brasil and i'm in Turkey.But I have a really good experience with him.And I know that will be more in time.If you want I can give you a lots of names about bad swappers and sellers.So what?They are already bad persons.We could not change,right?I think Mr.Alan not with their side.He'd sent me rare Brasil cards and i'd sent mines.Maybe he's in big economical trouble-he is already saying that- or maybe some other problems he have.Who knows.I don't want to believe he's cheater and I know he is not.So,gentlemens please wait some more.I am 41 and collecting/swapping/buying phonecards since 1986 and I have a 1000's of experience about collectors.Alan is good and when he's ok will send your cards.
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